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MEP contractors still wary of BIM

by Gerhard Hope on Dec 1, 2010

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David Crowder from Atkins
David Crowder from Atkins

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While a lot of MEP contractors and consultants are attracted by BIM, “they are put off by the amount of work you need to get there, which is probably where the market stands at the moment,” says Atkins MEP head of department: Middle East and India David Crowder.

“I think a lot of people have had a go at this and then decided it is too hard and given up,” says Crowder. Atkins, however, has applied BIM successfully to various metro projects throughout the region, and is a willing proselytiser for the technology.

Crowder is emphatic about the benefits of BIM: “In terms of design-and-build contracts, we really see a major advantage for contractors because really all MEP contractors want to do is buy bits of kit and install them; they do not want to fiddle and mess around and find problems, as it really disrupts programmes. We see this as a major way of contractors being sure of their programme schedules and the cost of their commitment to a project.

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“It means you do all the thinking and engineering before anyone starts building the structure or installing services. It has the big advantage of being able to plan ahead, and not find a major issue on the third floor, for example, that is going to stop work for a couple of months while somebody works out what to do,” says Crowder.

“If you have a fast-track project with a lot of problems to fix, ultimately it all comes back to the quality of the documentation you started out with,” comments Atkins design systems manager: Middle East and India Steven Anderson.

“BIM is a major advantage to the main contractor, because they are not fiddling around hacking out the structure, or changing the finishes, or lowering ceilings – all the things we know and love in the construction industry. Instead we generate all the drawings fully coordinated in the BIM environment,” says Anderson.

“Supervisors can then look at the 3D model that is generated because, even on-site, I have found in the past that people sometimes do not really understand the drawings, as they cannot really work out from the 2D drawings how things fit together,” says Crowder.

“With BIM you can see how it all fits together without having to go through dozens of drawings, and avoid such problems as having to take cable trays out as you need to put ductwork in.”




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mohammad firoz khan (Apr 13, 2011)
sharjah
United Arab Emirates

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Bob Harry (Jan 2, 2011)
Washington
USA

Virtual Model Update
I am trying to investigate ways in which Virtual models could be put to greater use during construction by creating a digital link between virtual components and physical components on site. And, i was wondering if any one could help me with your ideas on the following questions: 1. In what situations should Virtual model update be communicated to site? 2. In what situations should site changes be reflected in the Virtual Models (3D model)? Please can you cite examples for both cases based on your experience on projects.

biswaroop todi (Dec 21, 2010)
Houston
USA

MEP contractors still wary of BIM
I am not sure, if David is talking about the markets in US or middle east. In US, every major contractors have a BIM team in place already. For those learning to talk the walk, companies like ours are helping them speed up faster. In a years time, BIM would start being used on project values which is even less than $10 million.

Brian Lighthart (Dec 8, 2010)
Eugene, OR

BIM Plan files
In a BIM, spatial conflicts are much easier to find if the work is modeled accurately (big "if"). Spatial conflicts in unmodeled 2D documents do not show themselves, and are often not found until fabrication or installation is underway. A BIM, or virtual building illustrates spatial conflicts (intended or otherwise), and even allows them to be found, listed and highlighted by software. It is hard to cheat your way through a virtual design. On paper, it's easy.

Jim Romanowski (Dec 8, 2010)
Greenfield
USA

BIM
Ted: Bim as in Revit is taught at ITT-Tech. You can see great demos on YouTube, search Revit.

Ted Poull (Dec 7, 2010)
saukville
USA

jobsite uses
I teach construction supervision to peolpe that are in the trades and moving up at thier companies . Is there some place I can get a demo of what BIM can do ? I do have some one come in to demonstart for an hour but I could something more that helps tie the document control and the developement of the plans for a better demonstration in class. Any help?

Bud Nordman (Dec 3, 2010) USA

BIM Plan Files
Regarding "ultimately it all comes back to the quality of the documentation you started out with". "To err is human, but to really screw up takes a computer". This adage is now revised to, "To err is 2D plans, but to really screw up takes BIM". To the right designer, BIM is just a larger trash container for "Garbage In, Garbage Out".


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